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Hot August Night on Loon Lake, Stevens County Washington fishing for Silvers

Monday, August 15th, 2011
Nice wake and sunset as we head sto silvers territory

Nice wake and sunset as we head to silvers territory

Anticipation builds.  Fishing should be great!

Anticipation builds. Fishing should be great!

Loon Lake is always beautiful this time of night.  The terrain silhouettes like an old shadow box picture but is somehow alive.  Our target for the evening is Silvers for Jim and his son Andrew.  For me and Andrew’s young friend, it is probably anything that bites.   That probably means bluegills and sunfish for us.

Jim decided to fish the southeast side of the lake.  Not all the way to the end of the lake but in such a place as the garish, but somehow beautiful electronic palm tree seemed like you could actually climb it and perhaps find a coconut or something to eat with the fish you were going to catch.

We arrived at our desired location about 8:20 or so and Jim set about doing the hundred little things that make the fishing possible or better–at least in his and a lot of fishermen minds.  He has been working on a set of lights which make it possible to see what you are doing and another set of lights that float around on the water.  All this is designed to bring fish close to the boat.  In about ten minutes we were all there with lines in the water.  I opted for a regular small hook with a leader and a tad of marshmallow run up the leader to act as a float to lift the hook up off the bottom.  I topped the hook off with a good old fashioned night crawler.  Old habits die hard.   Being an impatient soul, I could not just through the line in, let it sink to the bottom, reel it up three turns of the handle and wait for a fish to bite.  This is the way to catch Silvers, I am told.  NOOOOO!  I have to throw it in, let it go to the bottom and gradually reel it in.  By my second cast, I had a nice, fat little blue gill flopping on the floor!

First blood of the evening!

First blood of the evening!

What a nice little pan fish to get the day started!  I was using my Emmrod Packrod®, Spinning version.  Notice the eye bolt in the butt end.  This would have let me hook a lanyard should that have been desired.  Folks in float tubes, kayaks and canoes have found that to be particularly useful.  I would suggest it is also not a bad idea when you take your kids and grand kids fishing.  You hate to loose a fish just ’cause the kid can’t hold on to the pole!  I was using the seven coil spinning/universal rod here.  It is amazing how much play you get when you have even such a small fish.  Too much fun!

Jim being a purist, wanted those silvers.  He was finally rewarded with the first about 40 minutes into it.  Silvers are a landlocked salmon which live about three years.  Normally they are not that big in Loon Lake, but this year, they have caught a lot of them in the 12-14 inch range and that is a nice fish!  I thought Jim caught 5 over the evening but only got four pictures which I will post below.  It was really fun to watch Jim trying to hook these sneaky little bait thieves.  The really do not hit the bait.  They come up to it and gum it.  Probably lick it.  Suck on it softly and you can barely feel them but your hook is empty when you reel it in.  I probably had three silver hits–based on the near the bottom nibble zone vice ten feet from the top blue gill zone–and was not able to hook any.  Once they bit on his bait, Jim would jerk his pole with all his might then let out a massive groan when they did not get hooked.  Sigh!  I think we counted about seven sets of fish dentures on the boat floor by the time we were done.  You just can not jerk the pole that hard! When he did hook them, he had to reel like crazy because the Silvers tend to try to outrace the reeling process to get slack line to spit out the hook.  Do they actually calculate that?  Sure beats me.  But, they do come flying towards the top of the water and Jim managed to stay ahead of what he hooked on the bottom and get them in the boat.

Speaking of bait, Jim was using a tiny glow hook which he would light up by flashing a camera flash attachment like tool at the hook which was cupped in his hand.  He used a green color which worked better than the red color I tried later.  Below the head of the hook, he would impale two maggots so they extended crosswise from the hook vice running them on the hook like you do with a worm.  Finally he topped that off with a kernel off white canned corn.    Later, he bagged the corn as it did not seem to make that much difference and caught at least two of the Silvers without corn on the hook.

About 10:15, the wind really picked up.  The fish quit biting and about 10:30 we called it a night and headed back in.  All in all, a great night fishing and an awful lot of fun!

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Here are photos of two of the fish we caught.

another nice silverThis one was swimming the other direction when we caught it.




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Some Emmrod use Comments by Philip

Monday, February 7th, 2011

Thanks for the updates Philip.  I really appreciate the input and look forward to more as you learn the best ways to enhance your fishing and where Emmrod Compact Fishing Poles work best for you.

I have often said I do not recommend you throw away all your poles and just use The Emmrod system.  If you read my initial post on Why Buy an Emmrod fishing system, I use the “Hammer” comparision.  There are many kinds of Hammers.  Each has its own use.  Yet, you could use any hammer for pounding almost any nail, it just would not necessarily be as effective.  Without further ado, Let’s look at where Philip is benefiting from using the Emmrod Hammer!  I am going to “interview him.”

Phillip, how do you set up your rig?

“I have found with my Emmrods if I do not put the line through the spings (Coil) the drag will not engage.”

(Dave’s comments) I have not had this specific problem  but Philip puts his finger on the same conclusion towards which we have been moving.  For most applications, running your line through the coils will give you a better fishing experience.  Keep in mind—fishing is situational.  Try it both ways and see what works best for you in different circumstances.  I would be dogmatic about trolling.  Run the line through the coils!  You will get far better control

What rod type works best?

“I also prefer spinning Emmrod rods even when I use a casting reel.”

(Dave’s Comments.)  Again, play with all options and see what works best for the fishing you are doing.  There really is no “wrong answer” that applies across the board.  We all tweak and adjust every tool we use. This one IS new to me.  I have had many folks use the casting rod when fishing with the spinning reel and in fact, that has worked pretty well for me.

How accurate do you find the factory recommended weight limit recommendations for the coils?

“I use the 8 coil rod to target up to 5lb fish, the 7 coil for 15lb fish, and the 4 coil for large fish.”

(Dave’s Comments)  I agree, the weight limits we assign are pretty safe.  I always recommend to err downwards,  Think you might get an occasional 7 or 8 pound fish but mostly under 5?  Go with the 7 coil rod!  No question.  If you hook a monster, DON”T CUT THE LINE!!!!  Use your drag to play them a little longer.  The fight is what is fun!

How do you find the Emmrods work for casting?

“For long range casting I enjoy fishing the top water special rod.  I still prefer my 7′ ugly stick for open water and long range casting.

(Dave’s Comments).  Refer back to the hammer issue.  The Emmrod casts excellently but in some circumstances the longer poles will have advantages over the Emmrods.  The Emmrods are designed to pick up the slack when the long pole presents a hassle in one way or another.  We want the Emmrod to be as close to what you are using in capability as possible but save you the undesired problems of a long pole.

Any last comments Philip?

“The place the Emmrods really shine is for fishing in heavy structure. The stiffness of the pole really helps when reeling fish away from heavy structure. These things I have found from my own observation and will tell you more as I use my Emmrods more.  One other benefit resulting from the shortness of the pole is the ability to easily land fish, especially from a small boat like a Kayak.  Because both the pole and the net handle are about the same length, I can easily land fish myself without dragging my reels in the ocean or having to carry a very long handled net.”

Thanks Philip.  I appreciate your input and hope the readers will as well.  Keep the photos and tips coming.  Dave

Kelp Bed Fishing By Kayak with the Emmrod 7 Coil rod

Saturday, February 5th, 2011

Thanks for this great information Philip!  You caught a great fish!  Sounds like you overcame that great obstacle all we fishermen fight–snags and weeds.

Caught by Philip near Palos Verdes CA in a Kelp Bed

Caught by Philip near Palos Verdes CA in a Kelp Bed

“Today I was fishing in a kelp forest off of Palos Verdes with my Eemmrod Packer. I wasn’t casting, but simply dropping my lure in the thick kelp forest. This works well because boats can’t fish these areas due to the thick kelp, but the kayak works great. I caught a 21″ 6lb calico and the emmrod performed amazingly. I really like the 7 coil rod and believe it can take on a much stronger fish than 5lbs as rated. When I caught this bass I had to drag it out of the kelp so I didnt let it take any line. The 7 coil rod provided more than enough strength to muscle this fish in. Great fishing Rod especially on the Kayak!”
Fishing the Kelp Beds near Palos Verde using An Emmrod Packer with 7 coil universal rod.

Fine Calico caught in Kelp Bed near Palos Verde Ca while Kayak fishing with an Emmrod Packer with 7 coil universal rod.

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Thanks again Philip for some great information and photos.  Good fishing to you!  Dave

What Pound Test Line should I use with an Emmrod Compact Fishing System?

Friday, December 17th, 2010
The Emmrod Short Top Water Rod

The Emmrod Short Top Water Rod

Obviously, the size of the fish you are targeting plays a role here.  Frankly, I am not that concerned with the top end of the scale.  I am more interested in our efforts to catch minnows.  How LIGHT of  a line can we get away with using?

The Nature of the Emmrod Fishing gear rods is they are a bit stiffer.  One of the very few abilities we do not have is to go to those ultra-light lines.  As a general rule, use ten pound test line as a minimum weight line.  You will find the act of casting or vigorous pull backs snapping those two to four pound lines. 

As with all rules, there are exceptions.  One of my customers, Phillip, has terrified the fish in the ocean near where he lives with his fishing prowess and collection of Emmrod Compact Fishing poles.  He is a fair sort of person who DOES want to give the fish a fighting chance so he likes to stretch the effort by using lighter lines. 

 

He expressed his excitement to me recently after trying out his Emmrod Top Water Rod.  He could actually use his lighter lines.  I provided him the shorter version; however, I imagine the longer version would accomplish the same thing.

 

Long and short Emmrod Top Water Rods

Long and short Emmrod Top Water Rods

So, I have a request from all you Emmrod Fishermen out there.  Please send me feedback on how you stretch your system to use lighter lines. 

I am going to make a category of blogs called “Fishing Tips” where I can share the wisdom of the various fishermen and women out there who are enjoying Emmrod.  Every tool has its tricks.  Let’s Collaborate!

 

See the Bass hit when using your Rugged Flex Jr with a Top Water Rod

See the Bass hit when using your Rugged Flex Jr with a Top Water Rod

Check out the Rugged Flex family of Emmrod Compact Fishing Rods

Philip’s question: Using 2 pound test line with Emmrd Compact Fishing Systems.

Friday, October 29th, 2010

Philip asked me if it was possible to cast a 1/8th oz crappie lure using 2 lb test line with the Emmrod System.  I have not had a chance to go out and try that yet because the weather here has been horrible.  Horrible from the point of view of going out in it to fish.  Actually, from the point of view of my garden and fields and getting drinking water next year and going skiing this winter (Not me, the effect of gravity on my rather heavy body is more than I can handle.), the rain and wind and coldness has been very good.

 

Here is what I have been able to find out by asking around.

–If you “shoot” your bait/lure out, forget anything under 10lb test line.

–If you cast, you should be fine, just don’t snap it out.  If you do, you will pop the lines, maybe even a 4 pound test line.  So, in the end, you should be able to cast with the emmrod using the lighter lures and lines, just practice and go gently in the lapping waves. I will try this when I can get out on the lake.